Comments on: 3.5 to 1 ain’t bad… http://www.shessuchageek.com/2007/05/13/35-to-1-aint-bad/ Sat, 02 Feb 2008 07:59:08 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: » Blog Archive » “I don’t believe I could get any woman scientist, with a Ph.D.—some nice, hot, assistant professor—to pose with a textbook propped up against her breasts” http://www.shessuchageek.com/2007/05/13/35-to-1-aint-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-10788 » Blog Archive » “I don’t believe I could get any woman scientist, with a Ph.D.—some nice, hot, assistant professor—to pose with a textbook propped up against her breasts” Wed, 16 May 2007 18:37:06 +0000 http://www.shessuchageek.com/2007/05/13/35-to-1-aint-bad/#comment-10788 [...] I don’t know why she needed PhDs instead of students, but this sort of reminds me of the comment thread on my post the other day. It’s hard enough for a woman with a PhD in the sciences to be taken seriously and get a secure job track. I’m sure very very few female science PhDs feel secure enough to portray themselves as sex objects on top of that. So don’t blame the sexual double-standard in this case — it’s much more to do with the leaky pipeline in general. [...] [...] I don’t know why she needed PhDs instead of students, but this sort of reminds me of the comment thread on my post the other day. It’s hard enough for a woman with a PhD in the sciences to be taken seriously and get a secure job track. I’m sure very very few female science PhDs feel secure enough to portray themselves as sex objects on top of that. So don’t blame the sexual double-standard in this case — it’s much more to do with the leaky pipeline in general. [...]

]]> By: DualBrained http://www.shessuchageek.com/2007/05/13/35-to-1-aint-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-10743 DualBrained Tue, 15 May 2007 18:55:52 +0000 http://www.shessuchageek.com/2007/05/13/35-to-1-aint-bad/#comment-10743 I recently talked to one of my doctoral advisors. From the sound of it, only three of his female Ph.D.s (out of about a dozen over twenty years) still work in engineering. I hope to leave it soon so that will make it two and those two are very recent grads. I'm sure retention issues broaden the gap substantially. I recently talked to one of my doctoral advisors. From the sound of it, only three of his female Ph.D.s (out of about a dozen over twenty years) still work in engineering. I hope to leave it soon so that will make it two and those two are very recent grads. I’m sure retention issues broaden the gap substantially.

]]> By: Jenny F. Scientist http://www.shessuchageek.com/2007/05/13/35-to-1-aint-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-10706 Jenny F. Scientist Mon, 14 May 2007 22:51:30 +0000 http://www.shessuchageek.com/2007/05/13/35-to-1-aint-bad/#comment-10706 In my discipline (biology) it's about 55/45 for PhDs, but for every n% of men who go on to postdoc, 0.8n% women do, i.e. it skews farther. And applicants are about 30-35%. Currently nationwide women are 20-25% of biology faculty. [Numbers from the NAS and NSF reports.] So it's great! The gap is shrinking in math, engineering, etc.! But the structural inequalities, even after a good thirty years of women in biology, are still having a huge impact. I imagine that it will be the same in math and such. Of course, I'm a pessimist. ;) In my discipline (biology) it’s about 55/45 for PhDs, but for every n% of men who go on to postdoc, 0.8n% women do, i.e. it skews farther. And applicants are about 30-35%. Currently nationwide women are 20-25% of biology faculty. [Numbers from the NAS and NSF reports.]

So it’s great! The gap is shrinking in math, engineering, etc.! But the structural inequalities, even after a good thirty years of women in biology, are still having a huge impact. I imagine that it will be the same in math and such. Of course, I’m a pessimist. ;)

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